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Scoops27
2nd April 2007, 05:58 PM
Do you own The Logo Creator? Not yet

Type of design: logo plus banner

Summary: Non-profit organization. Funding oregon education, parenting advice, some ecommerce.

Full requirements: There are no requirements, no cartoony images please.

Company Name: A Better Oregon.com small emphasis on the ".com" (smaller font)

Desired tagline: Currently NA possibly "Together We Can" still choosing tagline

Color scheme: I like soft medium to dark blue colors, dynamic doesn't do it for me. Green shades are also good as they go with our state of Oregon

Desired style: Abstract, simple, professional, emphasis on professional with a community or family touch.

Notes to designers: If you wish to donate your design, we will place your company name as a corporate sponsor on our main page, with web design by-"your company name" on each page on the bottom footer. Also if all else fails if laughingbird wishes to donate software to us we will happily give them links to their website and a thank you message on our donators page, no further affiliation payments would be required, just giving you free advertisement. Just some thoughts, thanks guys if you have any questions regarding our design requests, just reply I am online most of the day til 5pm, after that it is family time. Thanks all! Edited by -Scoops- to withdraw payment request in forum. Sorry!

Randy...
2nd April 2007, 06:01 PM
Reminder to everyone - fees cannot be discussed online. If you choose to offer samples to this request, please discuss fees off line thru pm or email.

Scoops27
2nd April 2007, 06:05 PM
Applogize for that, should of assumed that by not seeing payment offers in other threads, i edited the post to remove the pricing request.

Randy...
3rd April 2007, 06:36 PM
Hey Scoops -- a little something to get the ball rollin.

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Feedback appreciated.

Scoops27
3rd April 2007, 09:48 PM
Thanks Digger, that's something I was looking at just using a picture and standard font, that's up on my website now, just not published. I'm having creativity issues, so maybe new eyes will create the logo I have in my head way way back in my head. I'll bring some logos i've made in here to show you how my head is thinking, but my fingers are disagreeing lol

Scoops27
3rd April 2007, 09:57 PM
ok nevermind, guess i have to have them on my site before I can send them here, anyways i was thinking some sort of abstract mountain/river in the background, in no way dominate just a way to balance the logo make sense? Probably not but that's how my heads working.

Also I used a standard Impact font mainly cuz i have no fonts on my pc (not sure and a little lazy to find out how to install new fonts)
a Better Oregon.com

not sure how that's gonna turn out, but basically the letter "a" and the ".com" are a 1/4 of the size of the words "Better Oregon" also I had a monarch butterfly landing on the .com word, the butterfly alone works very well for simplicity but adding anything else I ran into clutter and unbalance issues.

I know noone can discuss payments, but as you can guess I went out and spent my own money on the CIC program, but if anyone wants to submit a design that kicks the rear out of what my beginner level of experience can do, then go for it, i'd love to just be done with this!

Scoops27
3rd April 2007, 09:59 PM
found the attachment button lol

Scoops27
3rd April 2007, 10:05 PM
good luck , hope that helps you see what i'm trying to invision over here.

Lamo1graphic
4th April 2007, 12:17 AM
Just trying to get a feel for what you are looking for

Scoops27
4th April 2007, 12:40 AM
Not bad for the first try. I'd put the "A" on the left and the .com on the right of the words, rather than top and bottom. The background banner is fine as far as implementing that to the heading of my site, maybe something more I dont know think "Mt. hood" snow cap, our state tree is Douglas fir.

On the Oregon side of it, something that says "oregon" is fine doesn't have to be an Oregon landmark, just says, wineries, skiing, beautiful coast, nice rivers.

I like the idea of trying to blend the name of our organization with a background banner like shown, it helps with the blending of the site layout as well. However I would like the name and a logo to remain obviously seperate but blended. That makes sense? So hard in words. I'll post a crappy version of what i'm talking about I guess. Hold on creating......hold on attaching... ok there it is. Something like that.

Also, a tree, animal, "mascot", symbol anything is a go for a logo just nothing to cartoony. I have the CIC so this logo will be put on letterhead as well. Thanks all for your attempts. Hope we get on the same page. I have a migraine from trying to get on my own page :P

Randy...
4th April 2007, 07:29 AM
Thanks for all the great feedback (this is exactly what makes the logo request process work) and the examples. My personal thoughts on your desire to lower case the "A" is that it just doesn't look good. The ".com" looks fine, but for a nice flow, the "A" looks better the same size. But, the Better Oregon could use a different font and colored differently to stand out.

Also, think about other things that you could use the logo for -- print, t-shirts, etc -- the basic logo should be simple enough for all of them. Then, it can be added to other elements for website layout & presentation.

I worked on a couple of other options last night and as soon as I get back home, I'll load those for you to view. (If Lamo or someone else doesn't get the design first!) :image10-2:

Lamo1graphic
4th April 2007, 08:48 AM
heres a different angle to look at!!!!!

Scoops27
4th April 2007, 11:56 AM
It's definitely better. I am looking for something smaller I guess? A good identity is neccessary but I do not care for it to over power my main page. This logo as far as me creating it, has looked the best with simplicity. Think bigger corporate logos like "pampers" they just have a symbol on top of the word. I would of had a logo done by now if my site or company name was only 1 word, but it's not so there goes the conflict with simplicity.

I tried to put a picture in the word Oregon as well, but to get any recognition from the picture i used the word has to be huge. I simply dont want that. I don't mind a banner for background, but I'd like to keep the logo itself to size of a half dollar on the screen. Even when I print a T-shirt it will be for kids education, or events that we are promoting, so the logo will not be over powering that either, maybe just a pocket area, with the web address on the back or something.

How about this, ocean, mountains, river, trees any of those images for the background banner is fine, even a backdrop of the city of Portland would work.
I understand and can agree with the sizing of the letter "A" so just do what you do best and figure out the best way the whole thing works together as far as font goes. The .com doesn't even need to be there, users these days are educated enough to know their on the web and what site their on.

Logo icon/mascot/image Think education, community, donations, I am only 28so I think a fresher look of those things would interest me more. Thanks again for your attempts, it's fun watching each logo take on more life.

Randy...
4th April 2007, 01:32 PM
A trick to the element within the text is to resize the element prior to placing it inside the text.

Lamo1graphic
4th April 2007, 02:31 PM
how about this

Randy...
4th April 2007, 02:32 PM
The green "O" is to different -- it looks like 'a better regan'.

Lamo1graphic
4th April 2007, 02:37 PM
hows this??????

Randy...
4th April 2007, 02:40 PM
I don't know, still doesn't look quite right....I can't place a finger on it, but I still have a hard time tying it together. Sorry -- I don't mean to upset you.

Lamo1graphic
4th April 2007, 03:14 PM
hows this

Scoops27
4th April 2007, 04:04 PM
Closer. Still cold though.

I like the blending of the letter O in Oregon, The tree isn't a style I enjoy but right idea. When I get some more time I'll look through some previous projects I've seen and post that for you, so you can see the style that made me want to purchase and post on this site.

ABetterOregon.com
Together We Can

I'm still shifting through tag lines possibly
Raising the Grade
or something along the lines of
Oregon's quality of education should match Oregon's Beauty.

But that usually is simple text, so all that can be added.

Oh and the sizing of yours lamo is fine, even smaller is fine too, but no bigger.

Scoops27
4th April 2007, 04:06 PM
I think we are all on here, have yet to look. The 2nd two logos you posted are better, but the O resembles way to much of the UofOregon logo.

I agree with digger though, somethings off, the balance, blending, or just something, simplicity seems to be on the right track though.

Scoops27
4th April 2007, 05:13 PM
Obviously my creative side lacks artistic talent, but here are a couple I came up with messing around. Don't get side tracked by the look, my mind is still open to any and every style, which might be my biggest roadblock since nothing is set in concrete on what i'm looking for.

The 2nd one the icon with the dad holding up the baby is something I was thinking of incorporating into the side of the letter A, just was a thought.

Hope these help more then they hurt!

Randy...
4th April 2007, 05:35 PM
I tried a round approach. Yey? Ney?

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Scoops27
4th April 2007, 05:51 PM
By far the best so far digger, much closer to what I'm going for here. Here is my latest one, I like it the best , it's very very simple, but it's what I'm going for, can you make it better? Or change it entirely fitting this kind of look? I'll compare the one you just did Digger, to the one I just did, maybe you can give me the pro and cons of mine, as for what companies, or users see when they see a logo.

I like yours for the fact it would fit nicely on many templates, t-shirts, and other promotional items. It's clean, doesn't make my eyes dart back n forth everywhere. I like images that I can take in with one glance.

Great job on the last one even if it wasn't what I'm looking for exactly.
Now that I've uploaded my logo I'm not liking the coloring as much lol Geesh

Randy...
4th April 2007, 06:04 PM
I believe you've gotten the hang of it now. You should be able to come up with a great logo. I'm happy that I was able to help you get your creative juices flowing!

Scoops27
4th April 2007, 06:35 PM
I believe I'm gonna be as limited as that. If anyone thinks there is a better layout or way to go do a logo, by all means please take the time. If someone can pm me and let me know what the estimated pricing is for your work that would be greatly appreciated, that way I know if we can budget it in. I'd rather spend this time creating content, and finishing the website, so if you think you can do it, pm me let me know, and we see what we can come up with. I didn't mean "can you beat this" as I was done and happy, it just means that's the best I can come up with. If I just wanted help and creativity push in the back, then I'd of posted in the help area. By all means if you are interested, throw some more out there we'll work something out.

Randy...
4th April 2007, 08:45 PM
By far the best so far digger, much closer to what I'm going for here. Here is my latest one, I like it the best , it's very very simple, but it's what I'm going for, can you make it better? Or change it entirely fitting this kind of look? I'll compare the one you just did Digger, to the one I just did, maybe you can give me the pro and cons of mine, as for what companies, or users see when they see a logo.

I like yours for the fact it would fit nicely on many templates, t-shirts, and other promotional items. It's clean, doesn't make my eyes dart back n forth everywhere. I like images that I can take in with one glance.

Great job on the last one even if it wasn't what I'm looking for exactly.
Now that I've uploaded my logo I'm not liking the coloring as much lol Geesh

This logo reminds me of a fishing company. I wouldn't be thinking of education.

Randy...
4th April 2007, 09:28 PM
How about something like this?
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Lamo1graphic
4th April 2007, 10:23 PM
i am all out of ideas for this we are in the twenty first century and we seem to be going backwards with this
SCOOPS in one of your posts earlier you said ""quote Also, a tree, animal, "mascot", symbol anything is a go for a logo just nothing to cartoony. "quote"

then you tell us no tree thats after i have put a tree in
your logo that you have done yourself looks quite good,you say you are aiming this at children,do you not think that the logos which you are requesting are a bit old fashioned in context!!!

you have bashed my brain cells sir!!!!!!:image10-1:

digger your last logos look nice and tight well done m8:image28: :image28:

Scoops27
5th April 2007, 01:14 AM
Sorry lamo, I am no logo designer by any means, and you are right on those aspects, my direction changes on a dime. The salmon was used out of creativity mostly for these reasons 1. Salmon in mythology is the animal of knowledge. 2. Chinook Salmon are in high regard and Oregonians are very proud of this fish. So I went and found a fish and implemented it.

Our organization is geared towards families, small businesses, family entertainment, and local information, with all proceeds and the main focus being on fund raising going to Oregon School Education. So as that part is focused on our youth and future education, it is by no means geared for kids. However we are thinking of a kids section of the website. But that's pointless for here.

As the logo goes...I have no general direction, or anything set in concrete, that's why I came here and ask for a logo creation, hoping someone with better skill and creativity than I would be able to come up with something that's in my head but I haven't found it in there yet.

Take the laughinbird logo for example, it has nothing to do with logos but it works, I like it as well. I wouldn't mind a logo that resembled something like that, it just would have to fit well with the business name, which I find is hard. Sorry to confuse you and have you going every direction, if I knew which direction I was going in, then I would most certainly tell you exactly what I wanted where to put it and be done with it. So I applogize for the confusion.

Maybe some help for me, you say " we seem to be going backwards here" is there something I don't know about creating a logo in this era? If there is a "style" that is the new way to go, please let me know, maybe this will help me come up with a more solid direction. Thanks.


DIGGER: I love the graduation hat on the O, and the font seems to work. No issues there. Green is ok, but green and gold is not, goes back to the UofO logo and their school colors. I think I have the same Oregon state outline on my pc and have yet to find enjoyment out of it. Maybe something solid or 3d looking if you are looking for the state to be in the logo.
The tree seems to just be there, not blended with the logo, I like the one without it more. I still like your circle logo as well, but you are definitely getting close to a finished product with either style.

Randy...
5th April 2007, 06:13 AM
It's not about what I'm looking for in a logo - it's about what you need. It doesn't appear you have a grasp on what that need is right now. If you'd like to take some time to search around and think about the direction your logo should take and then come back with fresh eyes and ideas, I think it would benefit everyone.

Scoops27
5th April 2007, 11:35 AM
I hear ya, I'll play around with the software more and see if something I see hits the spot, the problem I have is there are so many directions to go and until I see them I wont know if that's what I'm looking for. I'll check back and see if anyone had any additional things to add, until then I'll try to find what I want exactly, hit that software block like usual and come crying to you guys lol Thanks for your attempts without a clue of what I was wanting, it's appreciated.

Lamo1graphic
5th April 2007, 04:12 PM
?????

Lamo1graphic
5th April 2007, 06:08 PM
how about this


and thanks to digger for allowing me to use his graduation cap !!!!!!:image28: :image28:

Scoops27
6th April 2007, 01:46 AM
Lamo, I think you are trying to hard man, don't bust your balls with it. The superhero "graduation man" was cluttered, and way off what I'm going for. Here is my temporary fix to my logo. I am happy with it for now. Coloring may change and what not, but it was quick simple and easy. And except for the river should look fine in black in white. Not sure how to have that incorporated as a black n white logo. But anyways here is a look and template I enjoy that you can work off of.

Lamo1graphic
6th April 2007, 06:00 AM
ah good job " oh well on to the next one digger" i think that this can close now?

Randy...
6th April 2007, 08:56 PM
Thanks Lamo for all of your efforts. This was a very difficult request.

Scoops - the last design is very nice.